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Yes, folks, it’s that time of the year again. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has released its nominations for the class of 2012 and the list is as follows: Guns N’ Roses, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Beastie Boys, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, the Cure, Heart, Eric B. and Rakim, the Small Faces/Faces, Rufus with Chaka Khan, War, Laura Nyro, Donovan, Freddy King, and the Spinners. Those who receive enough votes will be inducted on April 14, 2012, at the Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio.
As always with the list of nominees, several questions immediately spring to mind. Will this be the year for the Beasties and the Chili Peppers, both of whom have been nominated before (as have Nyro, War, and Donovan)? Has the Hall of Fame done enough — or too much — to highlight the creative contributions of hip-hop to “rock and roll”? And will the classic, ’80s-era lineup of Guns N’ Roses reunite to play, call each other names, or compare rehab facilities?
Send us your thoughts!
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Let’s hope the REAL Guns shows up and NOT the Axl Rose Band.
G’N'R = likely, but c’mon. Their heyday passed a long time ago, and talk about getting inducted on the strength of one work. And no, it’s not “November Rain,” (which has always sucked, IMHO).
RHCP = should get it, and deserves it.
Beastie Boys = will be the inductee that gives the ceremony cred for the year
Joan Jett = will be passed over, sorry.
The Cure = maybe next time
Heart = a fighting chance, but only because of older stuff, not the “we have Jefferson Starship-itis” crap they released later.
Eric B & Someone Not Famous = yeah, right.
Small Faces = who?
Rufus & Chaka = welcome to the club, your table is ready.
War, Laura, Donovan, Freddy King, Spinners: my bet is on the Spinners.
Wow. Eric B & Someone Not Famous? Small Faces=who? Not much of a fan of music history, are you? And what difference does it make that GNR’s “heyday” passed a long time ago? Do you understand what the HOF is?
Dude… Small Faces made a medium impact on the British charts and virtually none in the US. I could easily say the same about Duran Duran—they’ve had equal or better longevity, and at least as many hits on both sides of the Atlantic.
Chart success is not the only indicator of HOF worthiness.
I agree with most of what you said, but seriously on Eric B and Rakim? You say “someone not famous” but people who actually know hip hop consider him possibly THE greatest rapper ever. So influential. Study up.
Small Faces were hugely influential on later British greats. An outstanding, eclectic band.
No RUSH???????????
Eric B & Someone Not Famous – are you kidding me? I don’t even like hiphop anymore, but Rakim is widely considered to be the best rapper ever. And not just the boastful Jay-Z/Kanye crap that passes for rap lyrics these days, but actually the greatest rapper by legitimate music critics and historians.
Seriously. Rakim deserves respect, BK. Just because you know nothing about hip hop, don’t assume that we are all of a like mind. Geez.
Oops. I directed my contempt toward the wrong person. Sorry, BK. It’s the Ultimate Answer who needs schooling.
The point of my original post is to weigh the chances of each nominee against each other. Yes, I’ve heard of Eric B & Rakim. They don’t have a shot in hell of getting in the HOF this year. It won’t happen.
Again, no RUSH. Guns and Posers can suck a bag of d_cks
I Agree, They have sold more Albums then all the nominations combined… Come on R&R hall get your head out of you bottoms….
Whats your idea of the REAL Guns? Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Steven which created Appetite. Or Axl, Slash, Duff, Dizzy, Gilby, Matt who were their from 90-95? My point, the band has always changed. If you would ever get over that, you might realize that these new guys (Dizzy since 90′, and Tommy since 98′) are very talented themselves. People said the same thing during Illusions when Izzy and Steven left and were replaced by Gilby, Dizzy, and Matt. This isn’t the real GNR. Axl started the band and picked Slash and Duff to be in it, so to me, GNR=Axl.
Then why even Slash GNR= Tracy Guns and Axel Rose, thats who started the band.
Lol that’d b funny. But yeah…new guns sucks.
The Spinners are not already in the Hall of Fame? Really?
I could supply you a lengthy list of who hasn’t been inducted or nominated.
And it would be quite a list. With an exception here and there the list of those who DO get inducted are little more than a list that reflect the personal tastes of Dave Marsh and Jann Wenner.
It should be called The Rolling Stone Magazine Hall of Lame.
you mean, “Jann Wenner’s boy-toy’s personal taste.”
“Jann! I tell you—more Red Hot Chiri Peppa!” “No Joan Jerra!”
Where do you go now? oh-oh-woah-woah-woah.. Oh! I threw my back out
I’m very excited for the inclusion of the Chilis, Beasties and the Cure; less excited about GNR & Heart, but whatever. I do hope that the inclusion of the Cure means they’re going to start to recognize more alternative music now, because The Replacements & The Smiths NEED to make it in d*mmit!
And RUSH gets denied again.
What a shame. I really thought they would make it in 2012 so it would be a play on their breakthrough album 2112,
LOL!!!!!
Be cool or be cast out. Alas.
or perhaps…..
“In Jann Wenner’s hall
muzak for shopping malls
Conform or be cast out”
Apologies for my attempt above, Rolling Stone just loses more credibility every year with its blacklist.
“I really thought they would make it in 2012 so it would be a play on their breakthrough album 2112.” Hey y’all—let’s all vote for Rush this year because it would be SOOOO CUTE! OMG!
Yeah, not happening.
I’m not surprised with the Rush omission. (Wenner feels it’s personal now. IMO, he wants to show he can’t be cowed by other opinions, no matter how valid.) With that said, I am shocked every year to see the “non influential to rock” artists that do receive a nomination to the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame when Rush (very influential) is passed over again. Their fans like me care, but Rush could care less.
You mean couldn’t care less.
I think “could care less” pretty much equals “couldn’t care less.” Kinda like “flammable” and “inflammable” both mean: “holy sh!t, this will burn!”
No, neither pair of similar words “pretty much equals” one another. “Could care less” means you currently care to some amount that could be lowered. “Couldn’t care less” means your level of caring is absolutely zero and can’t go any lower.
Likewise, if they mean the same thing, go right ahead and buy any children you have flammable pajamas.
Some hall of fame. No rush! LAME!
from Dictionary.com:
inflammable: capable of being set on fire; combustible; flammable.
And as far as the could care/couldn’t care less quandry—people use them interchangebly, correct or not. Do not try to school me Miss Tatum.
The Hall is a joke without Rush in it. Those guys could play Guns N’ Roses into the ground and have influenced many more musicians than Axl Rose.
Word
Rush is better than ALL of those other musicians combined.
Something is wrong in the universe!!
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Yay for The Cure and Joan Jett – hope they get in first time around! Hopefully Cheap Trick, Roxy Music, The Jam, The Smiths, Eurythmics, The Replacements and Husker Du will be recognized soon.
The Smiths should get in before The Cure.
Brian
Agreed!!!!
No way! The Cure is far more influential than The Smiths… there’s practically an entire genre of music now influenced by The Cure. That said, Joy Division should get in before The Smith AND The Cure.
You’re entitled to your opinion but if you are referring to the “emo genre”, I’d counter with (and I believe Q magazine said this) that with the song “I Know It’s Over”, “Emo starts here.” When the NME ranked their 50 greatest artists of the last 50 years, The Beatles were #2, The Smiths were # 1 and The Cure didn’t make the list.
Personally, I think you’re either a Smiths person, a Cure person or a Depeche Mode person.
Brian
Yeh, I wasn’t referring to emo.
Yes you were.
Brian
Yes you were.
That’s what I said! Quit copying me!
The Original Brian Wallace
I like, no, LOVE all three.
The Cure emo? Really?
Really?
why bother wasting votes on GnR, it’s not like they’ll play together again.
Exactly.
It would end up like the lackluster Van Halen non-performance given by Velvet Revolver.
Still no X?
If GnR gets in before Rush is even nominated I’m going to puke. What a joke!!! GnR had one…yes only one… good album. That’s it. Rush has been producing and selling much better material for over 35 years.
I won’t argue the merits of Rush VS GnR, but Use Your Illusion I and Appetite for Destruction are great, and AfD has to be recognized as a top 10 album of the past 30 years. Sure, they didn’t have 10 platinum albums, but Appetite is a watershed moment in music.
Sorry Monty, but the best songs on Use Your Illision I & II are covers. AFD is a great album yes, but GnR is NOT deserving of any HOF at this time.
A top 100 album of the past 30 years, perhaps. NOT a top 10 album.
GNR were HUGE and UYI 1 and 2 are really solid albums maybe you should listen to more than the two cover songs Coma, November Rain, Civil War, Estranged, and Right Next Door to Hell all amazing songs
and rush sucks! cool your drummer is pretty good neat
some awesome, powerful singles. But some rapid burnout as well.
@Fox..Hey..I like GnR. I own AFD and UYI i & II..they’re all on my iPod..but c’mon..RRHOF worthy? No!
I think the Use Your Illusion albums are great. I don’t even care for their cover songs either. You Could Be Mine might be my favorite GNR song.
Still no mention of Cheap Trick = RHOF is totally invalid.
Agreed 100%. Budakon alone gets them close.
Thank you, TOKYO. Cheap Trick says “Good night!!”
CHEAP TRICK! NOW!!!!!!!
Ask current musicians how influential they were!!!
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Boycotting until Rush is AT LEAST nominated! This is such a joke!
Supper? Watching the recap on YouTube or Hulu? Who are you trying to kid, Amanda?
She’s boycotting music.
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if The Cure get in (which I am sure they will someday, if not next year) Bands like Depeche Mode, The Smiths, New Order / Joy Division should also be recognized. All 4 had their own sound, but were a huge influence in the 80s & still sound timeless.
Agreed. I’d love to see the Cure get in, and I hope their induction would then open the door for those other bands.
The Cure gets in…then Depeche Mode! Let’s hope this is a sign of good things to come.
I’m not really following why The Cure’s induction would pave the way for Depeche Mode? They really aren’t that similar. The Cure was a post-punk band whose primary instrument was guitar. DM is one of the pioneers of electronic music and an early adopter of the synthesizer. I’m not sure if the HoF has inducted its first electronic band, but I’m sure once they do it’ll meet the same backlash that rap artists have gotten.
Oh, duh, Kraftwerk… one of the most overlooked bands by the HoF. Once they get it, it’ll open doors for DM and other electronic artists.
As usuall, it’s absolutely criminal that you can tote out some of those names, yet not even think of Hall & Oates, Rush and KISS, three acts that are all very deserving of getting into the HOF!
it’s Hall & Oates. Talk about a band that ruled for two decades and made classic music. Or the Cars.
The Cars. Excellent point. Ben Orr from Parma and overlooked again.
Aw, I love the Cars. I would’ve thought they would have been next after the Talking Heads and Blondie were inducted…
This is from the RRHOF website – “To be eligible for induction as an artist (as a performer, composer, or musician) into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the artist must have released a record, in the generally accepted sense of that phrase, at least 25 years prior to the year of induction; and have demonstrated unquestionable musical excellence.
We shall consider factors such as an artist’s musical influence on other artists, length and depth of career and the body of work, innovation and superiority in style and technique, but musical excellence shall be the essential qualification of induction.”
That last line alone describes Rush, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Yes, and countless other progressive rock bands that deserve to be not only nominated, but IN the RRHOF.
“…a record, in the generally accepted sense of that phrase…”
That phrase just makes me laugh…
Rush boasts 25 gold records and 14 platinum (3 multi-platinum) records, making them one of the best-selling rock bands in history by 2005. Rush currently place third behind The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the most consecutive gold and platinum albums by a rock band.
Maybe cleaning living is the best revenge…
Nice to see Heart and Joan Jett in there!
Alas, Cheap Trick get passed over again…
Cheap Trick belongs in the RRHOF before Eric B and Rakim or Chaka Khan and Rufus. WTF! It is nice to see Heart and Joan Jett be nominated, but still ERic B and Rakim and no Cheap Trick. Arrrrggggg!
I want you to want me!
I applaud the inclusion of Heart, but Joan Jett getting in before Pat Benatar? Heresy!
I forgot about Benatar — I’m a little surprised she’s not in there already…
What the **** does Def Leppard have to do to get nominated?? This list is ridiculous!
One might give their left arm to get nominated….
Oh my.
I actually did LOL (like really laugh out loud, not the fake internet LOL) on that.
…maybe invite some of the voters under the stage?
Good memory, you made me laugh….I remember hearing and reading about their under the stage antics during the Hysteria Tour.
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